Wednesday, November 4, 2009

Washington DC Event

I went to the DC event to see COB speak. I wanted to hear his plans, see if he had anything worthwhile to say. I wasn't surprised when he had little more to say than the same empty promises and lies. But the setting was more important than the speech. The new DC Ideal Org looks great! But the way the ceremony was done was not. I have literature claiming there would be 5000 Scientologists there. I came to help make that number. There was not near that many. Certainly fewer than 1000. But we were still numerous enough we should have had an open ceremony to show the world who we are and what we are and that we still have strength. But COB chose instead to hide us behind ugly white tarps surrounding the event. What a farce! And all because a handful of masked idiots outside.

COB gives his speech while he and the rest of us cower behind a crudely erected wall! What kind of message does that send? Anyone coming by from outside would see this enormous wall around the building and it would only highlight the masked idiots outside. Instead of seeing their pitiful small band of suppressives next to a throng of Scientologists, the world saw a group of suppressives keeping us penned in a makeshift barrier. What a joke we must look like to the world. This is why COB must GO! This is why David Miscavige, yes I will use his name, needs to step down or be pulled down. LRH would not have had us cowering behind sheets because of a few SPs. This is why I am writing this blog.

As for the so called Anonymous, they came closer than should have been allowed and made enough noise to be heard at times over the crowd. Their jeers became increasingly loud after the speech by COB. I just wanted to go out there and turn a hose pipe on them.

In my next article, I will explain how I would deal with Anonymous and I also will be announcing I have found others of the same mind as myself. I am not the only one who wants COB removed and new leadership installed. More later.

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  2. Dear sir,

    My name is Geir Isene. I am an OT VIII (attested 2006). I have similar motives as you in salvaging the tech from the suppression it faces. I want to see DM removed. Three months ago, I did a Doubt write-up after two years and thousand hours of extensive research - I left the church on August 7th. I have since been blogging at:

    http://elysianchakorta.wordpress.com

    You may want to read the About-page first.

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  7. Certain elements of anon do not appear to want the church to reform or collapse. The most glaringly obvious way to collapse/reform is by convincing scientologists to get out of the church.

    But if this part of anon was interested in convincing scientologists of anything, then they would drop the biggot remarks, quit attacking the religion and start focusing on the organization instead. Not being able to distinguish between an organization and a philosophy and attacking both makes the attackers look like the KKK and essentially there is not much difference.

    So there is the mature, well-intentioned part of anon that is really only trying to help stop human rights abuses and then there is the immature, irrational part of anon that is sabotaging these efforts with biggot remarks and intolerant attitudes (probably made up of mostly 4chan pedos).

    What happens is when a scientologist sees one of the immature anons (which there are plenty of), then their suspicions of intolerance are confirmed and they think wow, COB was right about these guys. When anons attack the subject iteself, they lose all credibility resulting in scientologists immediately disregarding anything anyone in anon says.

    Not all of the ones attacking the subject are SPs though. Some may just be PTS and many are just confused and have no idea what scientology is. They think it's based on aliens or some irrelevent out of context datum they saw in some arcane lecture. Part of this is because of Davis's shit poor misrepresentation of scientology and bothced PR job. So they just associate the subject with COB and the lies and abuses of the organization and attack because they can't differentiate and don't understand. But if there are SPs in anonymous, it is within the intolerant part of anon, not the good part. Think about it, it is the intolerant part that is making anon less effective - SPs crash stats wherever they go, even in anonymous!

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  10. I like your blog; it is cogent and well written.

    I hope in a future post you detail the type of leadership you would like "installed," as you say for the Church of Scientology. Would you prefer another leader like Hubbard? If your answer is yes, I would encourage you to examine where all the people who worked with Hubbard are now, and what they have had to say about him since his death.

    Please continue with your thoughtful analysis and opinions. I look forward to reading more., because I do believe that soon the church's future will rest in hands like yours.

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  11. Wow, you really do not get this.

    Their own free will? Huh? Have you not seen the SP Times and the story about the guy held captive? Have you not heard of disconnection? Have you not heard of freeloader debt, OSA harassment, etc., etc., etc. Sure there's some way for them to leave (sometimes) but there is a huge amount of coercion so I don't know that I'd say this is purely a voluntary arrangement.

    You can't just stop the inflow of people and expect that to be the end of it. It's not! The church would still be there with Miscavige to harass and coerce people. If you went away, they'd find some imaginary enemy to fight and keep on causing damage to the world around them and to their own members and their members families and business associates, etc. It's just not enough. The church needs to collapse or reform and waiting around for decades until all the current members die is such a ridiculous plan I can't believe you even said it.

    Don't you see that the ONLY thing COB can do to save face to the general public at this point is to say that the attackers are intolerant of other religions? That's all he's got. That's it. You give him his only remaining ammo, his only defense. He can use this to fire up the base and extract more funds for his war chest. And the thing is you don't even NEED to attack the religion to make the church look bad. After just pointing out the prices, human rights abuse, etc. about the church, a person would have to be crazy to join. That's enough right there without having to stoop to intolerance.

    A lot of scientologists sacrificed their integrity to fit in with the flock but that doesn't mean you have to sacrifice your integrity to fight them. It's time for you to adapt. It's time to finish this thing. There are plenty of anons with the more mature viewpoint I described - why don't you be one of them.

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  14. I'm not a member of Anonymous. I don't even know any of them. However I do know that Anonymous is not a "threat" -- the whole idea is bozo. The threat is David Miscavige picking fights and fighting everyone around him because he sees imaginary enemies in everywhere. If you are really a Scientologist you should know how to spot the source of a problem. Spotting the source of a problem opens the door to a handling that is well within your means and resources.

    Stop fixating on Anonymous. For god sakes, that's little different from corrupt white racists blaming African American students for the civil rights protests.

    Come on, it's STUPID! The problem during the fight for civil rights wasn't the people protesting for civil rights. It was a corrupt discriminatory government passing degrading and abusive laws that denied civil rights.

    Similarly, the problem today is not the protesters. It is a corrupt abusive leadership victimizing staff and parishioners in the name of religion.

    Freedom of religion is vital. But freedom of religion doesn't mean freedom to commit crimes and abuse.

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  20. B,

    I have mixed feelings about Anonymous: I certainly agree with you on many points. I despise the incident in New York where the guy ran into the org slathered in Pubic hair, and the intolerance of some people who're inovlved.

    Nonetheless, I still choose to align myself with much of what they/we're doing, because I believe that overall we're achieving something genuinely positive: informing Church members about the true (and genuinely criminal) actions being ordered and practiced by David Miscavige.

    The reason that OSA is unable to "handle" us, is because sadly most of what we're saying is true. This is the reason why you're hearing different stories in different orgs as to our motivations.

    I'm impressed by your courage in choosing to create this blog, and I also appreciate your willingness not to delete comments that I've no doubt are extremely disagreeable to you. [I find a good many reppellent too.]

    Nonetheless, communication and free speech are vital: they allow all of us to hear "the other side," and on occassion challenge our own views, they also show bigoted idiots for what (on either side) for what they are.

    Within Anonymous, there are a loud minority who really do believe that they can destroy Scientology as a belief system. However thanfully for all of us, they tend to talk, and do little else.

    Hoewer, the mahority of us, really do want to see an end to the fraud, abuse, and gross human rights violations that the CofS sadly do carry out all too regularly.

    These serious accusations, are not simply a fantasy on our part or the strories of disruntled former members; many are things that the Church has admitted in numrous court cases. They are also practices that we have seen visited on our own.

    I'm very tired, so what I've got to say probably isn't coming our quite as I'd like, but all I can say is PLEASE keep posting.

    Scientology will not be destroyed: ideas truly are bullet proof, but you're right, CoB will destroy the physical church, and tarnish i'ts name beyond repair.

    What you're doing is important, and takes real courage. But sometimes all of us have to stand up for what is right. The world may be a cynical, and sometimes conniving place, but Hubbard was right about one thing: "people are basically good," and conversely, "for evil to occur, all it takes is for good people to stand silent." Thank you for speaking out for what you know to be wrong.

    Wishing all good things

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  24. Good for you B!

    The sooner Scientologists wake up and speak out, the sooner we can get rid of the real SP who is destroying Scientology.

    Cowering behind sheets because of a few protestors isn’t very OT is it? But that is what the CoS has come to – totally unable to confront anyone who opposes it.

    When I was in the CoS, I used to get angry with protestors. But after I actually spoke to some and found out that they were genuinely concerned about Scientologists who were being abused by their ‘church’, I realised that they weren’t SPs at all. Don’t tar all of Anonymous with the same brush. Yes, some do it just for the ‘lulz’ but most now do it because they oppose the abuses perpetrated by the CoS under Miscavige.

    Good luck, you have the support of more than you can imagine.

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  25. Courage
    “Courage could be summed up in: one, being willing to cause something and two, going ahead to achieve the effect one has postulated against any and all odds. There doesn’t happen to be any such thing as failure. There just doesn’t happen to be any such thing.

    “But of course, you all want to agree there’s such a thing as failure so that you can have a reason to fail so you won’t have to be cause. That’s another thing. But there isn’t any reason to fail. There’s no excuse for any failure that ever occurred any place in history, except this–except this: There was just not quite enough carry-through and push-through.

    “You can mark the high tide of any empire or of any army in any period in the history of Homo sapiens and you’ll find out somebody, someplace on that track was deficient in guts. And when he was, he lost the whole track. There isn’t even such a thing as ‘carrying on too long in one direction toward the postulated effect.’ There isn’t even that. There isn’t even such a thing as ‘there are too many odds.’ That doesn’t exist. Nor there isn’t such a thing as saying, ‘Well, what I postulated was unreasonable and therefore I have to abandon that goal now because it was unreasonable,’ and so forth.”

    LRH
    13 Dec 1952 – Standard Operating Procedure

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  26. "But if this part of anon was interested in convincing scientologists of anything, then they would drop the biggot remarks, quit attacking the religion and start focusing on the organization instead. Not being able to distinguish between an organization and a philosophy and attacking both makes the attackers look like the KKK and essentially there is not much difference."

    Well as part of that is true, the part about attacking the scientology religion if you haven't noticed seems inevitable.

    For example, when you stated in your recent article about how to deal with anonymous by tracking them down and find their "crimes", that is creating that inevitablity to criticize the religion in that the religion recalls harsh retalliation aka SP order.

    Now if you were to stop such tactics and instead begin to allow others' views to be heard instead of slamming them in the face, Then religious discrimination against scientology would therefore drop drastically. Otherwise, you're just wasting air.

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